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Matthews: And the recruits may be joining for political reasons rather
than just cultural reasons.
Gorelick: Look, if bin Laden says
America only wants to kill Muslims and then there are pictures all
over the television every night of Americans killing Muslims, or
worse, what happened at Abu Ghraib--
Matthews: Right, humiliating them.
Gorelick: Yes, and clearly responsible for humiliation of Muslims
with no possible justification in the eyes of the viewer. Well then he
becomes deified because he has predicted and told them how we would be
and we fulfill that prophesy. So that is what we say is a breeding
ground for additional terrorists.
Ben-Veniste: Our mission is to separate Bin Laden and the al-Qaida
and the al-Qaida wannabes from the Muslim world at large to make it
inhospitable--
Matthews: How do you do that?
Ben-Veniste: Because you make it—you make their policies—you show
their policies to be so unsympathetic to the religion that they
profess, and your policies...
Fielding: You also have a big problem in the educational system,
the Madrassah schools are the only educational system in a lot of
these areas.
Matthews: So you’re talking hate with your arithmetic.
Fielding: You’re talking hate with your arithmetic.
Matthews: Let me ask you this, a big question, because as a person
whose not gotten your expertise, I watched the world react to 911 and
we all were so taken with it. It wasn’t just countries like Germany
and France and all the countries that we’re used to working with over
the years, in fact liked for many years, but all the countries in the
world showed sympathy for us, there was evidence of true human
sympathy throughout the globe after 911. Why did we lose that? Isn’t
that essential, that sympathy, in fighting al-Qaida. Why did we lose
it?
Ben-Veniste: Well we have stayed away from the question of Iraq--
Matthews: Well jump into it just for to answer the question, why do
you think we lost the sympathy of the world fighting terrorists, not
Arabs, terrorism?
Ben-Veniste: I think there’s been a reaction to the go it alone
philosophy to the rejection of old alliances and their importance and
I really don’t want to go...now I’m speaking only for myself...
Matthews: I understand, but we’re running at 6% popularity rating
right now in Egypt...
Fielding: You’re too high, it’s down below that...
Gorton: You’re separating two things. We haven’t lost sympathy with
respect to fighting terrorism. We’ve lost sympathy with respect to
some of our foreign policies, but remember at this point three years
later there have been no more terrorist incidents in the United States
but there have been lots of them else where. The French are concerned
about terrorism, the Germans are, Lord knows the Russians are, the
Turks are, they’re beginning to see that the fight against terrorism
is a fight that involves everyone in the world but that’s a separate
issue in their minds. People in these countries that are unhappy with
US foreign policy don’t think terrorism is a good idea, they don’t
want it in their home countries.
Fielding: We have a universal problem and the only analogy I could
think of when we were going through this was piracy. The world united
to do away with piracy and that was the way they did away with it. It
became an unacceptable thing anywhere in the world.
crosstalk
Gorelick: The one thing I want to say in answer to that question,
Richard Armitage [secretary of state] said something that effected me
and I think all of us a lot. He said we are exporting our anger and
our fear and not our hope and sense of opportunity. We have always
found tremendous strength, and I mean strength internal to our core
and strength as a leader in the world from projecting the ideals of
America and we fault America for not doing that. We are NOT conveying
to the world our strength and our ideals and our sense of the benefits
of freedom and we really need to do that.
Matthews: Yeah, less dirty movies and more peace corps. Wouldn’t
that be nice.
Gorelick: Yes.
And thank you...
Matthews: You can read a full transcript of my interview with the
911 Commission on our website. Just go to Hardball.msnbc.com
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The problem is, we can’t rewrite a religion. The "method of
Muhammad" followed by Islamists will remain in the Koran, Hadith and
Sunna. We don't define their religion, their holy books do. The
danger is, if America denies the truth, promotes Islam to school
children in America as peaceful, the conversion rate to Islam will
continue to rise exponentially. Just like other countries, once Islam
majority gains control of government, the totalitarian laws of Islam
will enter. This has
already begun in a local government in Michigan, where a small
town reportedly has the following broadcast blasting from a Mosque in
Arabic all over town, five times a day beginning at 6:30 am. The
prayer means:
"Allah is great, I bear witness that there is no god but Allah, I
bear witness that Muhammad is Allah’s messenger, hasten to the
prayer, hasten to real success, Allah is great, there is no god but
Allah."
Islam is growing in leaps and bounds and public education is
heralding it in. Once established, there will be no freedom. I guess
Christians won’t object to gay pride parades because all gays will be
dead. America’s "tolerance" is leading to the culture clash of all
time, and you can bet, somehow Christians will be blamed
again...except, whoops, we’ll be dead too.
I wonder how the history books will look then.
This interview has made my
case. The 911
Commission has acknowledged that Islam, the religion, shares
culpability in terrorism. Meanwhile our children are being led to "Assume
you are a Muslim soldier" on their way to conquer nations in the 7th
grade textbook, Across the Centuries, the ONLY funded textbook
in California and distributed nationwide. It also invites my son to
imagine he’s on a pilgrimage to Mecca, which is what Bin Laden
believes he is doing as he follows the method of Muhammad, spreading
Islam through peace with covert violent groups outlined in the
Koran, Hadith and Sunna.
So as Islamist terrorists taunt Christian* parents by dangling
their dead children by their feet from windows of a Russian school, I
do NOT want my son assuming he’s a Muslim soldier. As Islamists issue
fatwas for the death of my people, I would rather my son not imagine
he’s a part of them, following the footsteps of Muhammad and learning
poetic descriptions of a religion that demands his loyalty or
threatens to behead him and his family as outlined in their holy
books.
And I do NOT want my sons to offer their lives for a nation that
teaches them there is no god in public school. Call me unpatriotic,
but unless this nation sincerely remains under God, it will
lose my allegiance, and the majority of Americans finally waking up to
the loss of our nation.
It is time to tell the truth, it is also time to embrace moderate
peaceful Muslims and ask them to reconsider the reality of their
violent religion. And if they refuse, just keep on
loving them. But do not
train our children in the ways of Allah.
I tell you the truth, I have a harder time loving those who would
strip me of my religious freedom and my sons, the academic elite and
the tyrannical judges. I have no trouble loving Muslims.
***
*The Russian town was predominantly Christian
The 9/11 Commissioners: A Chris Matthews Special was
updated...RIGHT OFF THE INTERNET and replaced by an
older one with different 911 members. Why? And why does it matter?
Could it be because in the original the Commission clearly identified the connection of the
religious beliefs of Islam to the terrorists? This is something our
government, media and public education have vehemently tried to deny,
even in the face of the Koran verses recited over Nick Berg and Paul
Johnson beheadings. These are the very words our public schools would have our
children recite to "celebrate Islam."
See also Hardball cover-up
part 1
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